http://ubernoggin.com/archives/69 Intellagirl's Geeky Thoughts and Ponderings Thu, 01 Jul 2010 16:25:29 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 http://ubernoggin.com/archives/69/comment-page-1#comment-382 PaleFire Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:15:43 +0000 http://ubernoggin.com/?p=69#comment-382 Hey Intella, your post reminded me of David Silver's talk I attended at MIT last March (Mil 2.0). He was saying that the Military adopt Web 2.0, but in a slightly distorted fashion. They want to adopt Web 2.0 because they know it is cool and they feel they can recruit more young minds... but, say for instance, they would turn the comments off. Hmmm. Or they would open a MySpace page for advertisement... with the image of a hot blond... and would not friend anyone. So the question remains, are Web 2.0 tools still Web 2.0 when they are violated to beyond recognition? Hey Intella,
your post reminded me of David Silver’s talk I attended at MIT last March (Mil 2.0). He was saying that the Military adopt Web 2.0, but in a slightly distorted fashion. They want to adopt Web 2.0 because they know it is cool and they feel they can recruit more young minds… but, say for instance, they would turn the comments off. Hmmm. Or they would open a MySpace page for advertisement… with the image of a hot blond… and would not friend anyone. So the question remains, are Web 2.0 tools still Web 2.0 when they are violated to beyond recognition?

]]> http://ubernoggin.com/archives/69/comment-page-1#comment-273 Kafkaz Wed, 08 Aug 2007 06:36:19 +0000 http://ubernoggin.com/?p=69#comment-273 I used to rant like this about lists, websites, online teaching--even, for gosh sakes, word processing programs. (Volkswriter, anyone?) But now, I dunno. I don't think I'm as huge a fan of the Web 2.0 revolution as folks who haven't heard those old rants in awhile might have predicted. Here's what I think now. Sort of. It's still in the rudimentary stages of cogitation: Exactly how empowering is it to have about a zillion, conservatively, places in which to make my electronic voice known? It doesn't feel very empowering, most days. Feels kind of lonely, and splintered. How much time is there, how many spaces that need filling, how many engaged and engaging voices to go around. Now that I'm actually in the business world, I actually see a good bit of enthusiasm about tech--more, in some respects, than I often encountered in English departments--but I think where there is caution, it's usually pretty smart caution. If the kid is afraid of high cliffs and barking dogs with big teeth and bad attitudes, I'm okay with that. Just so with Web 2.0, in many respects. Perhaps I'm growing old. Perhaps I've too often done a headlong rush to embrace technologies, and come up with arms full of air. But, I don't think my brains have entirely leaked out, just yet. Instead, if anything, I probably have a lot more patience and compassion, now. My healthcare clients are trying to work within their communities to do very basic things: get people fed, kids immunized, drug addicts treated, widespread asthma and diabetes and heart disease addressed. They will and do deploy technology to get those things done, but in the end you just have to get your hands very, very dirty, indeed. It's easy to see why, from that perspective, all of the fussing about Web 2.0 and resistance seems like so much luxurious intellectualizing. It's an occupational hazard of the academic professions, you know: when folks vote no, can the resistance articles be far behind? Then, too, some cynicism--not an unhealthy amount, but just a bracing shot or two--comes with experience. Comes hand in hand with compassion; they aren't the strange bedfellows they're suspected of being. How many folks voted for the latest American Idol? How many folks keep substantial blogs? How many folks leave substantial comments on others' blogs? In the growing cacophony, it gets harder and harder to choose where one's voice can do the most good, and to modulate it according to the demands of the moment. Very easy to be swept away. And very easy to fall silent. I used to rant like this about lists, websites, online teaching–even, for gosh sakes, word processing programs. (Volkswriter, anyone?) But now, I dunno. I don’t think I’m as huge a fan of the Web 2.0 revolution as folks who haven’t heard those old rants in awhile might have predicted. Here’s what I think now. Sort of. It’s still in the rudimentary stages of cogitation: Exactly how empowering is it to have about a zillion, conservatively, places in which to make my electronic voice known? It doesn’t feel very empowering, most days. Feels kind of lonely, and splintered. How much time is there, how many spaces that need filling, how many engaged and engaging voices to go around. Now that I’m actually in the business world, I actually see a good bit of enthusiasm about tech–more, in some respects, than I often encountered in English departments–but I think where there is caution, it’s usually pretty smart caution. If the kid is afraid of high cliffs and barking dogs with big teeth and bad attitudes, I’m okay with that. Just so with Web 2.0, in many respects. Perhaps I’m growing old. Perhaps I’ve too often done a headlong rush to embrace technologies, and come up with arms full of air. But, I don’t think my brains have entirely leaked out, just yet. Instead, if anything, I probably have a lot more patience and compassion, now. My healthcare clients are trying to work within their communities to do very basic things: get people fed, kids immunized, drug addicts treated, widespread asthma and diabetes and heart disease addressed. They will and do deploy technology to get those things done, but in the end you just have to get your hands very, very dirty, indeed. It’s easy to see why, from that perspective, all of the fussing about Web 2.0 and resistance seems like so much luxurious intellectualizing. It’s an occupational hazard of the academic professions, you know: when folks vote no, can the resistance articles be far behind? Then, too, some cynicism–not an unhealthy amount, but just a bracing shot or two–comes with experience. Comes hand in hand with compassion; they aren’t the strange bedfellows they’re suspected of being. How many folks voted for the latest American Idol? How many folks keep substantial blogs? How many folks leave substantial comments on others’ blogs? In the growing cacophony, it gets harder and harder to choose where one’s voice can do the most good, and to modulate it according to the demands of the moment. Very easy to be swept away. And very easy to fall silent.

]]> http://ubernoggin.com/archives/69/comment-page-1#comment-271 Hackshaven Harford Tue, 07 Aug 2007 18:32:16 +0000 http://ubernoggin.com/?p=69#comment-271 Hey wait, I'm a fed forcing web 2.0 down the government's throat. There are a few of us out here... :) Say hi before we vanish. Hey wait, I’m a fed forcing web 2.0 down the government’s throat. There are a few of us out here… Say hi before we vanish.

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